Updated Console Worldwide Sales Numbers

Jonbo298 · 06-24-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bobcat

What about Joeiss? Does he get any rep?

*Looks hard to find where Joeiss replied* Looks like I don't see one. Plus, it must be funny in some way.

Joeiss · 06-24-2003, 11:27 AM

I believe bobcat was referring to my past sarcastic replies in other threads!

Dumbass. <----- sarcasm

TheGame · 06-24-2003, 02:55 PM

nice one Stu...

Anyway, I think GCN and Xbox are both getting thier asses handed to them, so it doesn't matter who is in second place

I have noticed more and more people getting Xbox's lately, did it have any type of sales jump in the last 3 months?

Shadow Fox · 06-26-2003, 01:19 PM

I can't help but think EGM is totally wrong on this info. They list no sources whatsoever, and, (being a post-E3 issue), this basically says that Nintendo lied, and that they haven't sold well over 10 million cubes by now, with Xbox at 9.

Now, I for one (knowing MS's aggressive PR) NEVER heard a peep of MS claiming otherwise, even at E3 after NCL threw their "we're number 2" chants. Ed Fries WOULD NOT let this carry on if it were false, IMO.

Plus, Nintendo announced that it sold 9.5 million (when they reported the console was just 500k shy of their goal), way back in March.

Please tell me how Nintendo lost 100k units globally, and how MS gained 5 million Xbox sales in two months (MS claimed 8.3 million in March).

Relevant links:

Nintendo's numbers
Microsoft's numbers (fiscal failure)
Microsoft's numbers

Please think about this; I've already contacted EGM about this potential error.

-Official Ninja of [coming soon]...

Xantar · 06-26-2003, 01:30 PM

Hopefully, this isn't another instance of sales being counted only for the fiscal year for Nintendo but being counted for the entire console lifespan for Microsoft as was done with the Bloomberg numbers a while ago. I still don't know how or why that happened unless some Bloomberg analyst has a vendetta against Nintendo.

I don't think that's what happened here, but it's something to keep in mind.

Dyne · 06-26-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow Fox

I can't help but think EGM is totally wrong on this info. They list no sources whatsoever, and, (being a post-E3 issue), this basically says that Nintendo lied, and that they haven't sold well over 10 million cubes by now, with Xbox at 9.

Now, I for one (knowing MS's aggressive PR) NEVER heard a peep of MS claiming otherwise, even at E3 after NCL threw their "we're number 2" chants. Ed Fries WOULD NOT let this carry on if it were false, IMO.

Plus, Nintendo announced that it sold 9.5 million (when they reported the console was just 500k shy of their goal), way back in March.

Please tell me how Nintendo lost 100k units globally, and how MS gained 5 million Xbox sales in two months (MS claimed 8.3 million in March).

Relevant links:

Nintendo's numbers
Microsoft's numbers (fiscal failure)
Microsoft's numbers

Please think about this; I've already contacted EGM about this potential error.

-Official Ninja of [coming soon]...

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...?threadid=5189

I don't see it either, were there any big-budget titles this year? Not really... Brute Force, RCTW, uhh, DOAX? Did DOAX sell two or three million on DOAX? Meanwhile, Gamecube sales were sloppy because of Zelda?

I smell BS. **** EGM for controversy, that's exactly why I never read them.

Bond · 06-26-2003, 01:59 PM

Hold on here Dyne.

When Mr. Heyyoudvd says GameCube is beating Xbox in worldwide sales numbers you say:

"AHA BOND! YOOOUUU LOOOSSEE!!! I TOLD YOU GCN WAS SECOND WORDLWIDE.

"

But when EGM says Xbox is beating GameCube in worldside sales numbers you say:

"I smell BS. **** EGM for controversy, that's exactly why I never read them."

Personally, I think it is impossible to gage worldwide sales of anything. So I will patentily wait until the generation is over and see. But I would believe EGM over Mr. Heyyoudvd.

Dyne · 06-26-2003, 02:03 PM

So, I say, it's right, Gamecube is second! But when EGM says something drastically different a few months later, like along the lines of millions of consoles, and I explain myself that there's no real titles to sell for, I say, BULL****! I see, Zelda was released March 26th, correct? A few days to sell, and they posed a number at the end of that month. Now, can you tell me, did Nintendo honestly only sell .1 million consoles within the whole time? Zelda was still on the charts at that time.

Look, I'm not rooting for Gamecube, I'm not rooting for Xbox, I'm not rooting for PS2, I'm rooting for people to shut up about it.

Stonecutter · 06-26-2003, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow Fox

Plus, Nintendo announced that it sold 9.5 million (when they reported the console was just 500k shy of their goal), way back in March.

Can't you dumbasses read?

Or are you just afraid to admit that the cube is in 3rd?

As was posted in bond's innitial post.

And as I pointed out in my previous post.

THESE NUMBERS ARE FROM MARCH!

Yes 9.5 (9.4, nintendo might have just rounded up) IN MARCH!

Shadow Fox · 06-26-2003, 09:06 PM

Gotta love the advantages of meddling with .php to avoid otherwise annoying posts...

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Originally Posted by Stonecutter

THESE NUMBERS ARE FROM MARCH!

Yes 9.5 (9.4, nintendo might have just rounded up) IN MARCH!

Yes, those numbers are from March, and we are well aware that Nintendo has sold their 11 millionth console by now.

My question to you (and Bond, and EGM) is, where the hell is this 13 million number coming from for Xbox? Every site I've seen regarding this has been saying 8 million plus, IN MARCH:

"As of early March Microsoft said it had shipped more than 8 million units worldwide since its launch in the autumn of 2001."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030410/80/dxi5p.html

"Friedman, Billings, Ramsey analyst Eric Rothdeutsch said in a report that Microsoft's Xbox sales are a disappointment. Microsoft has sold about 8 million Xbox consoles since the system's introduction in November 2001, and about 1 million units will ship through the end of June, he said."

http://rss.com.com/2100-1006-983593.html

"Microsoft projects that by the end of June, it will have sold 9 million Xbox consoles worldwide since the November 2001 launch."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in553697.shtml

I've seen not one single shred of proof that Xbox has indeed sold 13 million consoles. And interestingly enough, the cited links here relate to Xbox's 9 million projection as if it hadn't sold that much yet, all dating from April, to even late May. If the console is still "expecting" to sell 9 million in June via a MAY report, how did it sell 13 million in March? Enlighten me here; preferably with a valid link or two.

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Originally Posted by the strangler

As for the debate, I don't know numbers but I do pay attention to the world around me and I just see the XBox pulling ahead if just in public opinion.

Stangler, all regions are not the same (like the UK, where Xbox needed EXTREME pricecuts to even compete with Nintendo in the latter half of 2k2, or Japan, where the Panasonic Q is outselling Xbox). Just because in ONE region Xbox "appears" more popular, doesn't guarantee or even give a hint as to what the actual numbers are.

There is more than just the US to account for here, and until data emerges, GCN is indeed leading Xbox worldwide by some million and a half units, as it has been for the past year or so.

P.S. Stonecutter, there's no need for flaming and namecalling. If you want to show your ignorance- fine; but if you actually want to get your point across, you'll need to act mature if you want a decent discussion.

-Official Ninja of [coming soon]...

Null · 06-26-2003, 09:25 PM

Game hit it right on the nose....

Both GCN and Xbox are getting thier ass's handed to them.

Yet everyone here still argues about 2nd place. 2nd place might as well be grouped in a catagory along with 3rd called.... LOSING.

i mean. PS2 only came out a year sooner.... yet even GCN sales + Xbox sales dont even come close to competeing with PS2 Sales.

Argueing about who is 2nd is a pointless thing, neither company cares about being 2nd. its not #1 and thats all they notice.

TheGame · 06-26-2003, 09:27 PM

"I've seen not one single shred of proof that Xbox has indeed sold 13 million consoles."

That's the problem with these numbers, there isn't evidence to prove anything. Either you accept what they say, or you don't. Sales numbers can always be screwed wih, exagerated, fixed, or anything.

Nobody, including MS, Sony, and Nintendo, know exacty how many consoles they sold to this point... The only thing they can know for a fact is how many they shipped. Maybe the postd the shipped number as the sales or somthing who knows.

Argueing over how valid numbers are is kinda pointless... Looking at his home town, Strangler imagines that Xbox may be doing better, that's why he accepts them. You probably look at other charts and it doesn't add up, that's why you don't accept it.

Nobody is wrong here, you just chose to believe somhing different. Just like I chose to believe that there is no way to track every sale in every city, and on every web site in the whole world...

Bond · 06-26-2003, 09:28 PM

I can't tell you where EGM got these numbers. But I trust that EGM does not purposely make up numbers to piss off people. If this is a mistake then I'm sure they will correct it. But we'll see. It just seems as though whenever the GameCube is ahead no one questions it. But perhaps when then Xbox is ahead people doubt it. I understand this contradicts information released before. But who is to say this information isn't every bit as valid as the next?

I do trust EGM over IGN and Gamespot, but that is just my opinion. We shall see.

"Personally, I think it is impossible to gage worldwide sales of anything. So I will patentily wait until the generation is over and see."

Stonecutter · 06-26-2003, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow Fox

My question to you (and Bond, and EGM) is, where the hell is this 13 million number coming from for Xbox? Every site I've seen regarding this has been saying 8 million plus, IN MARCH:

Oh, so now that's your "question" now that you realize you made a mistake.

Let me remind you of your original STATEMENT

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this basically says that Nintendo lied, and that they haven't sold well over 10 million cubes by now, with Xbox at 9.

NO, they DID NOT LIE. They said that nintendo had sold 9.5 million in march.

You also said.

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Please tell me how Nintendo lost 100k units globally, and how MS gained 5 million Xbox sales in two months (MS claimed 8.3 million in March).

Not once.

NOT ONCE did I dispute the fact that the xbox numbers may be inaccurate.

ALMOST EVERYONE who mentioned the nintendo numbers said that "Nintendo had sold 9.5 through march" some people even said something to the effect of "You mean to tell me they haven't sold any cubes in the last three months"

These people (including yourself as is evident in the post of yours that I originally quoted) were ignorant to the fact that the numbers posted were from March.

Just because YOU DIDN'T READ THE POST WELL ENOUGH doesn't give you the right to change your point. In your original post you never acknowledged the fact that those numbers were from March.

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P.S. Stonecutter, there's no need for flaming and namecalling. If you want to show your ignorance- fine; but if you actually want to get your point across, you'll need to act mature if you want a decent discussion.

-Official Ninja of [coming soon]...

You think I'm ignorant, fine you wouldn't be the first person on the internet to think that, you can try and be condescending, try and put me down. It doesn't bother me, I don't feel the need to go to any extremes to prove my intelligence to you or to anyone else on this board. The people on this board that know me don't need any further proof of my intelligence. You, on the other hand, ran headfirst into your post without reading the other posts. That is something which is markedly, and undeniably ignorant, and you, in your attempt to embarrass me, just proved your ignorance to the whole board.

Remember, you responded to me, which tells me I got my point across just fine.

Thanks for playing!

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Stonecutter · 06-27-2003, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow Fox

I can't help but think EGM is totally wrong on this info. They list no sources whatsoever, and, (being a post-E3 issue), this basically says that Nintendo lied, and that they haven't sold well over 10 million cubes by now, with Xbox at 9.

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this basically says that Nintendo lied

NO IT DOESN'T

This says that nintendo sold 9.4 units through march. You want to dispute the 100,000 units fine. I don't care you win that one.

You are saying that EGM is calling Nintendo cooperate a bunch of liars, which it does not do.

It says that there are roughly 9 and one half million gamecubes sold worldwide through the end of march.

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and that they haven't sold well over 10 million cubes by now

No one is disputing that fact. Not even EGM.

EGM is giving you the numbers from march. The xbox numbers may be wrong. The nintendo numbers are correct, give or take 100,000.

There's also this wonderful nugget.

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Please tell me how Nintendo lost 100k units globally, and how MS gained 5 million Xbox sales in two months (MS claimed 8.3 million in March).

That alone proves you didn't read it. you thought that EGM was saying nintendo had 9.4 million in may and that it had lost 100,000 from march (because you know that the number was 9.5 in march) and that xbox which was at 8.3 million sold in march gained 5 million from march to may (two months.) You thought they meant May. They didn't.

You didn't read it.