Politically Incorrect: Gay Marriage

gekko · 08-06-2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

I'd accept a brother being married to is sister before I'd accept any type of gay union.

Which the US does allow if one of the siblings is adopted.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe · 08-06-2003, 12:21 PM

how can you accept siblings getting married before gays??? if siblings get married and they have children odds are their gonna have eleven toes, or some other genetic mutation. What happens when two gay ppl get married? nothing! their just with the person they want to be with, nothing more, that and they get the benefits from the government for being married, who does that hurt??? how does that affect YOU???

Kitana85 · 08-06-2003, 12:31 PM

If gay's could get married, they wouldn't be having sex out of marriage... besides, who would want to be gay.. I mean, people don't tend to go out of their way to get persecuted... what ever...

I just think they should be able to get the same medical benefits as straight people... it comes down to this

If two gay men have been together for as many as 25 years, as one is dying, the other WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AT HIS LIFE-PARTNER'S BEDSIDE AS HE DIED. He would have no claim to any of his partners belonings, and if the house was in his partners name, he would have no claim to that.

The dignity of both are taken away and their is no recourse... they can't even be with their partner as they die, as a husband of wife could be.

TheGame · 08-06-2003, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitana85

If gay's could get married, they wouldn't be having sex out of marriage... besides, who would want to be gay.. I mean, people don't tend to go out of their way to get persecuted... what ever...

I just think they should be able to get the same medical benefits as straight people... it comes down to this

If two gay men have been together for as many as 25 years, as one is dying, the other WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AT HIS LIFE-PARTNER'S BEDSIDE AS HE DIED. He would have no claim to any of his partners belonings, and if the house was in his partners name, he would have no claim to that.

The dignity of both are taken away and their is no recourse... they can't even be with their partner as they die, as a husband of wife could be.

It's funny that you say that, because I have gay uncle who has been in a relationship for about 5 years and his partner died and he didn't get crap. Does it suck? Yes. I'm not that heartless that I would say this is not a terrible thing. But still, being gay is a sin, period. If I had to chose between supporting the gay community or not supporting it, I would chose not to support it.

the only thing I would protect them aganst is any form of physical violence. I support the right to live, but in no way shape or form support sin.

TheGame · 08-06-2003, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GiMpY-wAnNaBe

how can you accept siblings getting married before gays??? if siblings get married and they have children odds are their gonna have eleven toes, or some other genetic mutation. What happens when two gay ppl get married? nothing! their just with the person they want to be with, nothing more, that and they get the benefits from the government for being married, who does that hurt??? how does that affect YOU???

lol, some would use your arguement against you, I mean, if gay people can't have kids what purpose do they serve? I dunno about you, but I would rather Adam and Eve be brother and sister than be gay and not want to have anything to do with each-other. Thus the reason I would accept any

It doesn't effect me now... and I hope it never does. That is all I can say as far as a personal reply.

Bond · 08-06-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

if gay people can't have kids what purpose do they serve?

Wow, that's actually a good point. But this fact still remains which we've said before: God created all humans in his likeness. I believe it is quite obvious that gay people are born gay. That would mean that God created gay people in his likeness. Care to justifiy that one?

TheGame · 08-06-2003, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

Wow, that's actually a good point. But this fact still remains which we've said before: God created all humans in his likeness. I believe it is quite obvious that gay people are born gay. That would mean that God created gay people in his likeness. Care to justifiy that one?

-Good, take it to the relgious side

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Ok, according to the bible, all men are born sinners. That is the simple explination. The best man can do is try not to sin, and ask for forgiveness... no matter how strong the urge is. Nobody is born with a sexual drive, so babies aren't 'gay' or 'straight' they haven't and can't make that decisision yet.

As far as creation in god's likeness, that was refering to us having free will and the ability to reason not how we act on our free will and reasoning.

Professor S · 08-06-2003, 01:46 PM

Game, say the tables are turned. Say being gay is the norm both socially and religiously. But you're born heterosexual and have absolutely no attraction to other men and even find it disgusting. So, knowing this, you would never EVER take a woman as your wife or see one romantically? You would never have sex with a woman or have act on your erotic thoughts?

gekko · 08-06-2003, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

if gay people can't have kids what purpose do they serve?

They can adopt kids, it's not like we don't have plenty out there who need families.

And if you really want to go along the lines that humans need to reproduce to exist, they can reproduce as well as straight. If there are only 4 people left, 2 male, 2 female, and they're all gay, they may feel no sexual attraction to the opposite sex, but they can still have sex and reproduce. The gay men could help the lesbian couple have kids. Just need to learn to cooperate with one another.