Your Religion!

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Joeiss

I hate people with this rationale. What the hell makes you so positive that your chosen religion is the right one? Nobody knows. For all we know, Atheists could be right. There might not be a God. I do believe that there is, but I am just one person. The fact that you don't approve of people worshipping other things is bull****. Who are you to disapprove? The only person who can disapprove of something like that is God, and you might be the person that he is disapproving of.

Yes, this post is indeed wierd. I believe that my religon is the one and only correct one because I want too. And if you give me crap that the only reason I believe this is because I grew up believing, than Im going to tell you good for me. I guess I got luckier that that hindu kid.

Originally Posted by Ginkasa

Well... Huh? So.. you're saying that God may be disapproving of Vampyr who worships God.. So God would be disapproving him of worshiping Him?

And if you truly believed in God, there would be no room for the possibility of other gods. It ruins everything about believing in God. If you admit that you might be wrong, you are not truly faithful and cannot be considered a real Christian...

Too right. His post was very wierd. And your second paragraph is also very true.

Originally Posted by Darkmaster

1. I don't live. Prove me wrong.

2. Can you prove death doesnt exist?

3. If you ate food and you are no longer hungry, how can you prove that you did in fact eat that food? Can you prove the past?

4. A notebook is a notebook because I say it is. Prove me wrong.

*congratulates Darkmaster on a post well done*

[Ginkasa]

GM:

See, now you're not even arguing or debating with anybody. You're just raising stupid philosophical, unanswerable questions that mean jack squat in the grand scheme of the world.

The only thing you're proving is that you're an idiot who has no clue what he's talking about.

I'm done with this. This is probably just some wierd scheme of your's to get attention or try to take part of an intelligent conversation that you have no clue about.

Don't reply until you have something to say that people would actually care about.


*shrugs and walks away*

[Hero2]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

I rest my case.

existence.

1 a obsolete : reality as opposed to appearance
b : reality as presented in experience
c (1) : the totality of existent things
(2) : a particular being d : sentient or living being : LIFE
2 a : the state or fact of having being especially independently of human consciousness and as contrasted with nonexistence
b : the manner of being that is common to every mode of being
c : being with respect to a limiting condition or under a particular aspect
3 : continued or repeated manifestation

thus anything you have seen felt learned is existence.
existence is your way of life anything you have incountered is existence.
to question what you have seen felt touched is foolish your alive im alive thats a given if anything above and beond that that has not been touched by you is not existence. have you felt god have you seen god or have you read about him maybe saw a picture. ive seen a note book its notie and bookie ive felt it and even eaten a page anything can be questioned and proven except god soo whether hes there and dosent want to be found or hes not there and someone needs to belive in somthing anything just to have hope. anyway it doenst matter if he is god then he has a plan wether you belive or not and what is that you can see and fell that is existence. god is just... somewhere else or not there at all.

[GameMaster]

How significant is "jack squat" in a world which cannot be proven.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by gamemaster

in a world which cannot be proven.

Oh, the humanity, here he goes again.

[GameMaster]

Originally Posted by Hero2

thus anything you have seen felt learned is existence.
existence is your way of life anything you have incountered is existence.
to question what you have seen felt touched is foolish your alive im alive thats a given if anything above and beond that that has not been touched by you is not existence. have you felt god have you seen god or have you read about him maybe saw a picture. ive seen a note book its notie and bookie ive felt it and even eaten a page anything can be questioned and proven except god soo whether hes there and dosent want to be found or hes not there and someone needs to belive in somthing anything just to have hope. anyway it doenst matter if he is god then he has a plan wether you belive or not and what is that you can see and fell that is existence. god is just... somewhere else or not there at all.

Yes, but how can I prove myself existant? How can I prove that someone has seen, felt, or learned of me when everything else is a result of my seeing, feeling, and learning.

According to your logic, everything exists because of me. How could I make myself exist though? How did I make myself exist to make everything else exist to make me exist?

[Hero2]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

Yes, but how can I prove myself existant? How can I prove that someone has seen, felt, or learned of me when everything else is a result of my seeing, feeling, and learning.

According to your logic, everything exists because of me. How could I make myself exist though? How did I make myself exist to make everything else exist to make me exist?

if your here then how do you not existence.
it doesent matter who made you existence. Its the fact that you do existence that matters

[GameMaster]

Umm, all those "existence" should have been "exist".

As for your question:

I can't prove/disprove that I'm here.

[Ace195]

Originally Posted by Hero2

if your here then how do you not existence.
it doesent matter who made you existence. Its the fact that you do existence that matters

Thats deep jeff thats really deep that touches me right here *points to heart*

[Hero2]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

Umm, all those "existence" should have been "exist".

As for your question:

I can't prove/disprove that I'm here.

yes you can open your eyes are you there then thats existence. you exist. existence is you being there nothing more if your there you exist. and dont say how to prove your there theres nothing to prove you can type i can interact with you your there dont make it more then that if you do then your wrong. dont look for answers that have no question its just a stupid saying you thought sounds cool but gets old
p.s. ace i try

[GameMaster]

How can you prove/disprove that what your eyes show you is what's really there or not there?

[Hero2]

because it is there how can you question it not being there you giving the word a differnt meaing like saying this jelly dont tase like penut butter
of course it doesnt. how else can you prove somthing. there is no other way you see it its there end of story.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

How can you prove/disprove that what your eyes show you is what's really there or not there?

For Your Information: The things shown in the Matrix are not true. It is a fictionary world created by some guy that had too much time on his hands. It is a great movie, but you should not believe what it says. I think you've watched it one too many times.

[TheGame]

lol, belive it or not, I like Gamemaster's arguement.

He is thinking along the lines of a movie I have seen, to give a better example... The Matrix... or even worse the 13th floor (or somthing like that).

How do we know we are real and not a AI program? We could be living in some futurisic verion of the Sims... my way of disproving that I live in some type of Matrix is my faith. If you have faith in nothing you aren't alive.

You believe that you are real, and that's all a matter of faith, you can't prove you are real, it's just progrmmed into your head... just like the Sims. It's impossible to not poor ny faith into anyhing, because if you didn't you might as well be dead.

I'm not saying go out and kill yourself, but even if you were to, you have faiht that when that bullet goes through your head you will die.

Like GM said about the food, Crono quickly sruck back with the fact that he would die if he stopped eating... but guess what... Crono obviously hasn't stopped eating long enough to find out... he just has faith that stopping will kill him.

How do you guys know if we are real or not? Or if every person place and thing you have ever run into are just ailens here testing you? Why don't you pove that? You can't jump into another person's body can you? You just have what you have.

Why do people have compassion for others? Because they think they are the same, but you really don't know until you become them, which you can't.

I'm even confusing myself the way I am talking, but at least I feel I have purpose in life. Some have faith in science, some have faith in thier own beliefs, and some have faith in God. The key is no matter if you are aithest or not, you have faith in somthing, if you like it or not.

So GM using food as a form of belief is reasonable. Just because you drop the ball the same way into the same spot for years, it doesn't mean that the next time you do it the result will be the same...the next time it could float up and hit you in the head. Nothing is guranteed.

We don't even know the sun will come up tomorrow... are there parts of the world you haven't been to? Well, you don't know it's real, or if it's fake until you go there for yourself. You cannot prove anyhing you haven't done, faith is the only way to come to a reasonable conclusion.

You think you will die it you shoot yourself in the head? Well you can't prove it... maybe if one of us ailens who are testng you would go away if that happens, but you don't know that it will happen the next time or if you try it on yourself. You have faih that it will or it won't

[Hero2]

*claps* bravo
all I have to say is wjy does it matter
if your here then your here if not then why should you care your not real thus leading into the ultimate question ??why??