Your Religion!

BreakABone · 09-04-2003, 12:46 AM

I go away to school for one week, and a religion thread rears it's ugly head again.

In the time from the last relgiion thread, which was what 5-10 mins ago or so? I realized I have no faith, but am spiritual or so my friends told me when we had this discussion over pizza. If you must know, I had a slice with a hot dog roll and a Tropical Sprite Remix.

GameMaster, as always you just try too damn hard. I mean just because you try and make an intelligent arguement doesn't make you look intelligent. I forget the old cliche, but it's something along the lines of "Better to be thought of a fool, then to speak and remove all doubts."

As for Justin, it's not too shocking to see you agree with the most farfetched arguement thrown out

, but your logic works and doesn't work. We have no idea in knowing if we really exist or if we are just some game someone else is playing. And in the long run, it really doesn't matter. We don't make our living on knowing we exist, we exist as our own entity. We may or may not make our own decisions, but as long as we perceive that we do, we are fine, and until you can prove it wrong, eh.

Anyhow, textbooks call.

Dyne · 09-04-2003, 03:12 AM

100th Post.

=o

You guys sure like to argue.

TheGame · 09-04-2003, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

I realized I have no faith.

Then you completly missed the point of my post

Faith is believing in somthing... and there are a lot of things you can believe in. Every human I know has faith in somthing. You have probably made plans to buy somthing or do somthing with your life in the future... but the fact that you are making plans for the future means you believe that there will be a tomorrow.

Will there be tomorrow? Unless sombody has a time machine and have seen it, there is no way to tell. Will there even be a tomorrow for you personally? Who knows, you could die today.. hell, even right as you read this post... but you have faith in the fact that you won't, even though it can't be proven.

There I go confusing myself again...

Anyway, I doubt there is a person in theis forum who has no faith in somthing that may or may not be true and that may or may not happen. That's the thing about the world, nothing is guaranteed, but if we were to think this way 24/7 we would probably be suicidal maniacs.

to have no faith you would have to sit there questioning each second of your life, one by one by one, no sleep, no food, no nothing.

BreakABone · 09-04-2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

Then you completly missed the point of my post

Faith is believing in somthing... and there are a lot of things you can believe in. Every human I know has faith in somthing. You have probably made plans to buy somthing or do somthing with your life in the future... but the fact that you are making plans for the future means you believe that there will be a tomorrow.

Will there be tomorrow? Unless sombody has a time machine and have seen it, there is no way to tell. Will there even be a tomorrow for you personally? Who knows, you could die today.. hell, even right as you read this post... but you have faith in the fact that you won't, even though it can't be proven.

There I go confusing myself again...

Anyway, I doubt there is a person in theis forum who has no faith in somthing that may or may not be true and that may or may not happen. That's the thing about the world, nothing is guaranteed, but if we were to think this way 24/7 we would probably be suicidal maniacs.

to have no faith you would have to sit there questioning each second of your life, one by one by one, no sleep, no food, no nothing.

Hey, I never read any of your posts, it's usually

*Makes point*

Blah..blah..blah..

*Tries to make point again*

Bleh...bleh..bleh...

I just skimmed it really so eh, but who knows.

And define faith, I mean you can have "faith" in yourself, but that is completely different than having "faith" in an uneartherly being.

TheGame · 09-04-2003, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

And define faith, I mean you can have "faith" in yourself, but that is completely different than having "faith" in an uneartherly being.

Having faith in anything is the same as having faith in anything else... faith is believing is somthing that cannot be proven... and if somthing hasn't happend yet, it cannot be proven. So if you believe somthing will happen in the future, you have faith in it. Just like a person beliveing in the future after they die that they are going to heaven, you can't prove them wrong... just I can't prove you wrong if you say somthing you have no control over will happen.

TheSlyMoogle · 09-04-2003, 09:58 PM

Seeeee I told you this thread would start controversy. Hurrah!

Anyway, I'm an aetheist because I just scientifically don't believe there could have ever been a god. Or heck maybe there was a god who came here and created this place, and maybe now he's gone back to his wife somewhere in this galaxy and he could care less about us. Maybe god is an alien. Have you guy's ever heard of Occam's Razor? Basically it means the simplest explanation is the right one? Right? So the simplest explanation here is that there is no god! I mean It's much more believable right that there is some all powerful being out there that watches over us and controls everything right? I call that a tall tell my friend, like Paul Bunyan and his big blue ox.

Who's to say that Jesus wasn't some nut who went around spouting off some tale in his head, and eventually he got some followers. Notice how all these religions were started by men?! Hmm.

Ginkasa · 09-04-2003, 10:39 PM

You think a massive explosion of mass that seemingly came out of nowhere (even though that's supposedly impossible) that then reacted together in such a way to create billions of stars and planets and eventually Earth is simpler than God made everything?

*snort*

*shrugs and walks away*

nWoCHRISnWo · 09-04-2003, 11:05 PM

I think the chances of what you just described happening, Ginkasa, are a lot more likely than some all mighty superbeing thing that made everything and everyone and controls everything and everyone.

Vampyr · 09-05-2003, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginkasa

You think a massive explosion of mass that seemingly came out of nowhere (even though that's supposedly impossible) that then reacted together in such a way to create billions of stars and planets and eventually Earth is simpler than God made everything?

Exactly. If people believe that the big bang theory is correct, and that this ball of energy exploded, than all of the atoms reconnected to form these massive fusion reactors called stars, and then formed to form earth, with the exact things we need to live, then formed us the exact way we need to be, with all our organs inside our body, and then some how these atoms were able to connect in such a way that we are alive, and can move, and are not inanimate and we can think . I would say that God comeing and just making us is much simpler indeed, and much more probable than all those atoms connecting and forming and changine in the perfect way.

mickydaniels · 09-05-2003, 09:35 AM

I don't see how the big bang theory makes any type of sense at all. Let's use an example of a recent explosion that we're all aware of on September 11th. After the planes made the buildings go BOOM, and they were still standing, was anything in some kind of perfect structure, order or anything. I have a hard time believing that some explosion caused the planets to line up in an order, orbit the sun, and do things in set patterns like the universe does. I have never seen any explosions or heard of any explosions that cause order and structure.