Your Religion!

Rndm_Perfection · 09-06-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nWoCHRISnWo

And does nobody else think that the chances that we just haven't figured out how everything was created is a lot more likely than everything that has been thrown about (god, big bang, etc)? Just because god seems to be the most simple and best answer from the different theories that we know about RIGHT NOW doesn't mean it's true.

Not only that, but it was one of the first guesses. That makes it even more potentially innacurate. Ever heard of an educated guess, anyone?

Ginkasa · 09-06-2003, 08:44 PM

God is not a "guess." Christians, Jews, and Muslims (those that are truly faithful anyway) do not just go around saying "How was the universe made? Maybe its some divine being called 'God'."

We say it as fact because we know He did. There is no guessing in faith.

*shrugs and walks away*

Rndm_Perfection · 09-06-2003, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginkasa

God is not a "guess." Christians, Jews, and Muslims (those that are truly faithful anyway) do not just go around saying "How was the universe made? Maybe its some divine being called 'God'."

We say it as fact because we know He did. There is no guessing in faith.

*shrugs and walks away*

Oho! Mah bad, captain! Y'mean you know God exists? Do tell me how it is true, all-seeing master! *stabs self a couple times... names the stabbing "sarcasm" and dies of it*

Ginkasa · 09-06-2003, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginkasa

In any case, this is probably where at least this part of the debate ends. Once we get to where I'm saying "You just have to have faith" and you're saying "I can't believe such a thing" then there's really nothing we can do to change the other's mind.

No need to type it twice...

*shrugs and walks away*

Professor S · 09-06-2003, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

Oho! Mah bad, captain! Y'mean you know God exists? Do tell me how it is true, all-seeing master! *stabs self a couple times... names the stabbing "sarcasm" and dies of it*

You're missing the point. Faith is belief in the absence of proof. If there was proof that God exists, there would be no reason for faith. Faith is truth beyond logic and reason in the eyes of the beholder.

Physics is also not the beginning and end of the universe. I forget which atom, but in a certain atom it is physically impossible for 2 electrons to switch levels. Guess what? They do. There is no scientist on earth who can figure out why everything they know tell them it can't happen, and it does.

There is so much in this universe that we have no answers for. Do not assume that there is no God just because we can't prove he exists.

nWoCHRISnWo · 09-07-2003, 05:40 PM

You do NOT KNOW god exists Ginkasa. That's bull****. You THINK he does. It's not a fact.

Ginkasa · 09-07-2003, 05:51 PM

Yes, I do KNOW he exists. You trying to convince me otherwise is what's "bull****" because its not going to happen. Taking this further will amount to nothing more than us flaming each other so I see no reason to.

*shrugs and walks away*

Stonecutter · 09-07-2003, 05:53 PM

Wow, how did I miss this one?

You see the face on the TV screen
coming at you every Sunday
see that face on the billboard
that man is me

On the cover of the magazine
there's no question why I'm smiling
you buy a piece of paradise
you buy a piece of me

I'll get you everything you wanted
I'll get you everything you need
don't need to believe in hereafter
just believe in me

Cos Jesus he knows me
and he knows I'm right
I've been talking to Jesus all my life
oh yes he knows me
and he knows I'm right
and he's been telling me
everything is alright

I believe in the family
with my ever loving wife beside me
but she don't know about my girlfriend
or the man I met last night

Do you believe in God
cos that's what I'm selling
and if you wanna get to heaven
I'll see you right

You won't even have to leave your house
or get outta your chair
you don't even have to touch that dial
cos I'm everywhere

And Jesus he knows me
and he knows I'm right
I've been talking to Jesus all my life
oh yes he knows me
and he knows I'm right
well he's been telling me
everything's gonna be alright

Won't find me practising what I'm preaching
won't find me making no sacrifice
but I can get you a pocketful of miracles
if you promise to be good, try to be nice
God will take good care of you
just do as I say, don't do as I do

I'm counting my blessings,
I've found true happiness
cos I'm getting richer, day by day
you can find me in the phone book,
just call my toll free number
you can do it anyway you want
just do it right away

There'll be no doubt in your mind
you'll believe everything I'm saying
if you wanna get closer to him
get on your knees and start paying

Cos Jesus he knows me
and he knows I'm right
I've been talking to Jesus all my life
oh yes he knows me
and he knows I'm right
well he's been telling me
everything's gonna be alright, alright

Jesus he knows me
Jesus he knows me, you know...

nWoCHRISnWo · 09-07-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginkasa

Yes, I do KNOW he exists. You trying to convince me otherwise is what's "bull****" because its not going to happen. Taking this further will amount to nothing more than us flaming each other so I see no reason to.

*shrugs and walks away*

Are all the religious people here like that? Does everyone just deny the fact that it's possible there is no god?