I have figured out THE MATRIX

[Stonecutter]

I think I'm going to pick up Reloaded on DVD tonight.


But I just have to drop this in.

If Revolutions ends, and it's a dream, or a video game, or a virtual realty thing, or an acid trip, and you see this movie at the same theater that I did, you had better ****ing run, because everyone near me is going to die if they pull that bull**** on us.

[Rndm_Perfection]

Originally Posted by Stonecutter

I think I'm going to pick up Reloaded on DVD tonight.


But I just have to drop this in.

If Revolutions ends, and it's a dream, or a video game, or a virtual realty thing, or an acid trip, and you see this movie at the same theater that I did, you had better ****ing run, because everyone near me is going to die if they pull that bull**** on us.

I was thinking the same damn thing...

Hey, I live about two hours away from Chicago, I say we see the movie together and bring big sticks.

[Rndm_Perfection]

Crash, I watched Reloaded today and noticed something when the crew went to the "Frenchy"s restaurant. While walking in, he sees someone being escorted out... the guy's got a beard, so I assume he's the bum people've been talking about. Can I get any verification on this?

Also, Frenchy mentions that he's survived Neo's predicesors *sp*, which most likely means the previous "ones". But, could that possibly be much more recent than "intended"? That is, instead of surviving the previous "ones" from way back... maybe the bum/ex-one was trying to kidnap the keymaker.

Just a thought.

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

Crash, I watched Reloaded today and noticed something when the crew went to the "Frenchy"s restaurant. While walking in, he sees someone being escorted out... the guy's got a beard, so I assume he's the bum people've been talking about. Can I get any verification on this?

Also, Frenchy mentions that he's survived Neo's predicesors *sp*, which most likely means the previous "ones". But, could that possibly be much more recent than "intended"? That is, instead of surviving the previous "ones" from way back... maybe the bum/ex-one was trying to kidnap the keymaker.

Just a thought.

i never noticed that, but i'll look into it (about whether that was the bum or not)

[The Duggler]

Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

Crash, I watched Reloaded today and noticed something when the crew went to the "Frenchy"s restaurant. While walking in, he sees someone being escorted out... the guy's got a beard, so I assume he's the bum people've been talking about. Can I get any verification on this?

Also, Frenchy mentions that he's survived Neo's predicesors *sp*, which most likely means the previous "ones". But, could that possibly be much more recent than "intended"? That is, instead of surviving the previous "ones" from way back... maybe the bum/ex-one was trying to kidnap the keymaker.

Just a thought.

His name is the Merovingian. And I'm pretty sure that there is at least a hundred years between emergences of the ones, and that all the previous ones are dead, due to aging, but some might have their mind trapped inside the matrix, who knows? But where does the theorie of the bum being a previous one come from? Is it simply Crash's idea?

[Rndm_Perfection]

Originally Posted by Nitram

His name is the Merovingian. And I'm pretty sure that there is at least a hundred years between emergences of the ones, and that all the previous ones are dead, due to aging, but some might have their mind trapped inside the matrix, who knows? But where does the theorie of the bum being a previous one come from? Is it simply Crash's idea?

If "the one" is a program (which it most likely is), then he might be able to live forever. Or, the one could bend the rules of aging, as he does with many other basic laws.

Now, what if the Merovingian was a previous one (yes, a bit far-fetched). Reasons why I'd think this:

- Oracle quoted (approx) "He's one of the old ones". Could simply mean that he was just some old program... but to do what?

- Merovingian quoted (approx) "Deal with them... deal with them? Have you no respect for your predicessors?" followed later by "I have survived your predicessors, and I will survive you"

- The woman quoted (approx) "He was different... he was like you"


I await Revolutions.

[The Duggler]

Originally Posted by Rndm_Perfection

If "the one" is a program (which it most likely is), then he might be able to live forever. Or, the one could bend the rules of aging, as he does with many other basic laws.

I believe that the real world is really the real world, and if that's true, then Neo has to be human because a program cannot exit the matrix (excepted if done the way smith did it)

Now, what if the Merovingian was a previous one (yes, a bit far-fetched). Reasons why I'd think this:

- Oracle quoted (approx) "He's one of the old ones". Could simply mean that he was just some old program... but to do what?

It's a good thing you put approx, because you got them all wrong. It was more something like "he's one of the oldest" (talking about exilled programs). And what does it matter what purpose he had? What was the job of the twins, or the wherewolves?

- Merovingian quoted (approx) "Deal with them... deal with them? Have you no respect for your predicessors?" followed later by "I have survived your predicessors, and I will survive you"

He said "your predecessors had more respect than you"

- The woman quoted (approx) "He was different... he was like you"

That one is good, but don't mean much.

[Rndm_Perfection]

The wolves and the twins may be programs he picked up over the many years of "free time" he had. Y'know... like hacks for PSO ¦¬Þ.

Originally Posted by Nitram

I believe that the real world is really the real world, and if that's true, then Neo has to be human because a program cannot exit the matrix (excepted if done the way smith did it)

If the "real world" is really the real world, then how would it be destroyed five times and then be restored; how also could Neo handle the squiddy; why would the architect treat the one's purpose as part of the control, and tell him that if he were to enter the door to the mainframe, that his "code" (not sure the term he used) would be imprinted into the system. Similar to the last part, how would Neo imprint some code onto Smith if he didn't have a code of his own?


The werewolves though... heh, that was tricky. They (err, he) ought to have a decent part in the next film. I do find it funny how she called them loyal though (loyal dogs, that is).