Remembrance Day.

Vampyr · 11-02-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler

A large amount of them were shot by their own military. All soldiers retreating were gunned down.

Exactly. They had mounted machine guns behind their own troops, and anyone who decided to retreat got blown to smithereens.

Another huge factor of death: Weapons. When you send guys into battle with pitchforks and tell them to fight, your asking for huge casualties.

And when the Russians did use guns, it was one gun for every two soldiers. One carried the bullets, one carried the gun. When one of them got shot, the other took over.

Those kind of tactics are insane and suicidal, unless you have a large enough population to back up the strategy. Russia did.

Crono · 11-02-2003, 06:34 PM

Ah yes, Stalin once said "In the Soviet Army, it takes more courage to retreat than it does to advance."

That tactic was more of a message to the Soviet Army that defeat was not an option, and that they had to win, no matter what. If the Soviet Army was defeated at Stalingrad, Russia ( and possibly the world) would have been finished, because at the same time Moscow and Leningrad were under siege, and if the Soviet's lost at Stalingrad then the Germans would have been able to take those cities, and it probably would have only been a matter of time before the Soviet Union collapsed, if it's capital city was under German control.

I'm not saying what Stalin did to his soldiers was a good idea, in fact, it was horrible. But it was a horrible price to pay for their victory.

Hero2 · 11-02-2003, 06:58 PM

they would have had it too if hitler hadent stoped the tanks and waited for the infantry to "catch up"

TheSlyMoogle · 11-02-2003, 09:22 PM

This has nothing to do with WWII but!

The first Canadian to start selling ice cream was Thomas Webb of Toronto, a confectioner, around 1850. William Neilson produced his first commercial batch of ice cream on Gladstone Ave. in Toronto in 1893, and his company produced ice cream at that location for close to 100 years.

Just thought you might want to know about the first seller of Ice cream in Canada.

Woah!

PureEvil · 11-02-2003, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

This has nothing to do with WWII but!

The first Canadian to start selling ice cream was Thomas Webb of Toronto, a confectioner, around 1850. William Neilson produced his first commercial batch of ice cream on Gladstone Ave. in Toronto in 1893, and his company produced ice cream at that location for close to 100 years.

Just thought you might want to know about the first seller of Ice cream in Canada.

Woah!

Errmmm, this topic is about war and stuff. Ice cream in no way has anything to do with anything in this topic, although it is very tasty.

DarkMaster · 11-02-2003, 10:07 PM

Just a message to Angrist and anyone else who happens to be from Holland.

Who freed your country's ass in World War II?

Damn straight. And don't you forget it either.

Hero2 · 11-02-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster

Just a message to Angrist and anyone else who happens to be from Holland.

Who freed your country's ass in World War II?

Damn straight. And don't you forget it either.

as long as you dint forget who ended the war

/ nuke

Crono · 11-03-2003, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster

Just a message to Angrist and anyone else who happens to be from Holland.

Who freed your country's ass in World War II?

Damn straight. And don't you forget it either.

Canada wasn't fully responsible for the liberation of Holland, Canadian command just happened to be around when the Germans surrendered, so they surrendered to Canada. The US was responsible for mmore Nazi deaths.