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11-03-2003, 12:45 PM
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Re: Remembrance Day.
The Liberation of Holland had started with the Americans on September 13, 1944. British troops played a large role along with the Americans. Failure of the airborne assault on Arnhem prevented the liberation of the rest of Holland (September 17, 1944). Canadians took over the liberation and they cleared the Dutch approaches in November. Hostilities ceased on May 5 and the Canadians liberated Holland including Amsterdam and Rotterdam and also the Hague.The Dutch suffered through a harsh winter. Fuel and food and other relief supplies were quickly brought into the area. This was important to winning the war because it ruined the Germans final defense efforts.
Canada had provided a place of refuge for the Queen of Holland during the war in Ottawa . This combined with our efforts to liberate and support the Dutch in Europe led to a good and lasting relationship between the Canada and Holland. This is the reason we have the Tulip festival in Ottawa every year. The tulips are a gift from Holland to Canada to thank us.
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11-03-2003, 04:57 PM
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Re: Remembrance Day.
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This is the reason we have the Tulip festival in Ottawa every year. The tulips are a gift from Holland to Canada to thank us.
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Very cool stuff. Glad I know it.
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11-03-2003, 04:57 PM
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Re: Remembrance Day.
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The Liberation of Holland had started with the Americans on September 13, 1944. British troops played a large role along with the Americans. Failure of the airborne assault on Arnhem prevented the liberation of the rest of Holland (September 17, 1944). Canadians took over the liberation and they cleared the Dutch approaches in November. Hostilities ceased on May 5 and the Canadians liberated Holland including Amsterdam and Rotterdam and also the Hague.The Dutch suffered through a harsh winter. Fuel and food and other relief supplies were quickly brought into the area. This was important to winning the war because it ruined the Germans final defense efforts.
Canada had provided a place of refuge for the Queen of Holland during the war in Ottawa . This combined with our efforts to liberate and support the Dutch in Europe led to a good and lasting relationship between the Canada and Holland. This is the reason we have the Tulip festival in Ottawa every year. The tulips are a gift from Holland to Canada to thank us.
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exactly....
and as for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.... there is no reason why they hit COMPLETE civilian targets.... people who did not want to be in the war, and people who had no desire to fight and die for the war. The only difference that the US showed by hitting those targets is that they had no interest in civilian deaths. Military targets would have made just a strong a message, especially since the japanese would have realized the futility of gathering troops in one place for an attack as they could easily be dispatched..... anyways....ya, thats my opinion
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11-03-2003, 05:08 PM
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Re: Remembrance Day.
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exactly....
and as for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.... there is no reason why they hit COMPLETE civilian targets.... people who did not want to be in the war, and people who had no desire to fight and die for the war. The only difference that the US showed by hitting those targets is that they had no interest in civilian deaths. Military targets would have made just a strong a message, especially since the japanese would have realized the futility of gathering troops in one place for an attack as they could easily be dispatched..... anyways....ya, thats my opinion
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If we wouldn't have bombed Japan a lot more people would have died. I would rather not go into details... just believe me. 
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11-03-2003, 10:58 PM
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Re: Remembrance Day.
The bombing had to happen, I just don't agree with two bombs being dropped. One bomb would have been sufficient enough.
They blew one bomb up in the air and one one the ground. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just 'tests'. Basically they were guinea pigs.
Here's a question, could you have pressed the button to drop those bombs? If I was the pilot, I don't think I could.
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11-03-2003, 11:06 PM
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Re: Remembrance Day.
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The bombing had to happen, I just don't agree with two bombs being dropped. One bomb would have been sufficient enough.
They blew one bomb up in the air and one one the ground. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just 'tests'. Basically they were guinea pigs.
Here's a question, could you have pressed the button to drop those bombs? If I was the pilot, I don't think I could.
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The US asked Japan to surrender after the first bomb was dropped. Japan refused. They refused after the single most destructive weapon known to mankind was detonated on their populace.
The Japanese were, and still are to a large extent, a samurai culture. Quite literally it is in their nature to die before being shamed. We need to look on other cultures through their ideals, and not ours. I find this happening a lot lately, especially in discussions about the Middle East.
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11-03-2003, 11:16 PM
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Re: Remembrance Day.
Another city had to be destroyed though? Couldn't the US just **** up a large japanese island or Japan's largest military base(s)?
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