Zelda: Spirit Tracks

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

TP was good, but this is blasphemy.

I've tried on at least 3 different occasions to give OoT a chance. Originally on the n64, and again on the Cube with the two Zelda disc and it never clicked with me.

Not sure why, I played and enjoyed a Link to the Past, I love Wind Waker and enjoy Twilight Princess.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

I've tried on at least 3 different occasions to give OoT a chance. Originally on the n64, and again on the Cube with the two Zelda disc and it never clicked with me.

Not sure why, I played and enjoyed a Link to the Past, I love Wind Waker and enjoy Twilight Princess.

yeah that is weird. To be honest I was never really too enthused with the first 3 dungeons in the game, but once you're adult link the game is just amazing.

[Angrist]

Originally Posted by Thespis721

Off the top of my head?

Essential - Sword and shield combat, epic storyline, Ganon (I'm sorry, but every time they try and create a story outside of Ganon, it seems to fall flat), keeping with the overall storyline, quests within quests, weapon/shield/clothing upgrades, unique worlds and villages and cultures

Not essential - puzzles for puzzles sake, a friend to tag along, water/ice temples, central temples

Ok I made a doc file. I probably missed a lot. Anyone feel free to add and/or reformat it. A doc file sucks, but it works best in a table.

[Ginkasa]

Throwing my two cents in with OoT vs. TP: I think Oot is much better than TP. I don't see how they can really compare on equal terms. The only thing that TP does better than OoT is having better graphics, but that's a given. Specific points:

1) Story. TP's story was/could have been good, but not as a Zelda game. Link was practically a none factor story wise; he was relegated to Midna's errand boy. Zelda and Ganon could have switched to entirely different names and it wouldn't have mattered. Everything Zelda about it felt tacked on. OoT meanwhile is the epitome of the classic Zelda story. Not that other games (MM, TWW, LA) don't have better stories, but OoT is the perfect distilled Zelda story. It has all the bare, classic essentials boiled down to pure awesome.

2) Gameplay. Everything good about TP's gameplay was taken from OoT. There was nothing good added and nothing bad taken away. They would simply be equal except for the whole "new item's only good in one dungeon" thing going on with TP. Off the top of my head I think the only item that is absolutely worthless outside of its main dungeon is the Iron Boots. And I guess maybe the different tunics if you want to count those. But everything else could be useful at other points in the game.

3) Legacy. If TP is truly remembered years from now it will be as "the game that reminded me a lot of OoT." I am still amazed, however, at the things I notice in modern games that I can trace back to OoT. There are some things the industry is finally improving and moving away from direct systems (i.e. you don't see the lock-on system as much anymore; camera controls have gotten better with the second analogue stick), but OoT definitely impacted how 3D games were made for several years to come. TP made not such innovations.

Thre are probably other items as well. Basically, I think you can say that you enjoy TP more than OoT and, I suppose, you could argue that means which is "better" is subjective. However, I don't think you could honestly argue over which is the most influential, classic, or essential.

I mean, someone could probably argue that Super Mario Sunshine is a better game than Super Mario 64 due to technical advancements, but reallY?

[Angrist]

By the way, it's getting decent to good reviews. 8.0-9.3. I don't know what to think..... I'll probably pick up a cheap and used copy.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

I've tried on at least 3 different occasions to give OoT a chance. Originally on the n64, and again on the Cube with the two Zelda disc and it never clicked with me.

Not sure why, I played and enjoyed a Link to the Past, I love Wind Waker and enjoy Twilight Princess.

This proves that:

A) you are a goof
or
B) Zelda games are fucking repetitive and taxing (in terms of time/dedication for gameplay) and Nintendo hasn't come up with any new ideas so OoT and TP are so similar you wouldn't be able to find differences if you played them both in your lifetime.

OoT has fishing though...oh man, love fishing.

[Jason1]

For me I guess OOT came at the perfect time in my life as a gamer. I would have been 11 when it was released. Had just gotten an N64, and the only Zelda game I had played prior was the original for the NES. I knew Zelda was the game I wanted to have, but I knew very little else about it. I think I was initially just floored by it's presentation...there had never been a game in 3D that was that engrossing.

[Angrist]

A Link to the Past was the first Zelda game I played. We loved it. When we heard about (and saw) Ocarina of Time, we were quite excited. We had to wait 1 or 2 more years, but it was worth it.