WarCraft 3: Frozen Throne

Null · 07-01-2003, 09:49 PM

picked it up tonight.

pretty nice. i like the extra units they put in so far. new NE hero is cool. havnt tried the otehrs yet.

anyone else get it?

manasecret · 07-01-2003, 10:14 PM

I stopped playing WC3 because I realized I sucked and wasn't getting any better

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*runs away crying*

Mechadragon · 07-02-2003, 12:46 AM

Got it and love it. Humans got the shaft in the campaign though.

Neo · 07-02-2003, 12:54 AM

I'm really looking forward to getting it. First I'm going to re-acquant myself with the original

bobcat · 07-02-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mechadragon

Got it and love it. Humans got the shaft in the campaign though.

They were bloody awesome in WCIII.

I'm getting mine tomorrow

Will start off with single player.

Undead are my favourite race.

ominub · 07-02-2003, 12:03 PM

someone told me that two was better but ive never really seen 3

Null · 07-02-2003, 12:04 PM

2 has some points i miss in 3.

but overall 3 is much better. the heros addition alone makes it so.

Jason1 · 07-02-2003, 02:53 PM

I play Counter Strike

Null · 07-02-2003, 04:10 PM

thank you sir, for answering the question im sure everyone was dying to know.

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Xantar · 07-02-2003, 05:25 PM

I've only played the Beta, so I'm sure my impressions are out of date now.

It's good to see that massing dryads isn't such a dominant tactic any more. That used to tick me off because it's not the way they're meant to be used, but after a while, that was the only thing Night Elf players did. And it usually worked, too.

This should be pretty fun at the start when people are still figuring things out. During the beta, I used to rip up Orc players who kept trying to mass shamans against me while I was playing Humans. It was great.

My favorite hero is the Shadow Hunter for Orc. One time, I was playing with my roommate as an ally. He was Human and I was Orc. Big Bad Voodoo + Holy Light on the Shaman = destroyed enemies.

Serpent Wards are pretty cool, too.

I hope they've balanced out some of the neutral heroes, though. Some of them were completely ridiculous such as the Naga Sea Witch with Forked Lightning.

My one complaint during the beta was that air power got seriously shafted. There's almost no reason to use flying units any more. There are too many commonly used units that can rip them up (spellcasters and ranged units). The point of air units is to attack other air units (especially Frost Wyrms and Chimeras) or ground units that can't hit back, but if the enemy is always going to be able to hit back just be following a normal strategy, what's the point?

bobcat · 07-02-2003, 06:17 PM

Xantar, Chimeras can't attack air units.

How much does that suck? They can only attack ground units. So you need to make sure your opponent is strictly ground before mass chimeraring.

I like Gargolyles, and lots of them. They are quite cheap and good.

Null · 07-02-2003, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bobcat

Xantar, Chimeras can't attack air units.

How much does that suck? They can only attack ground units. So you need to make sure your opponent is strictly ground before mass chimeraring.

I like Gargolyles, and lots of them. They are quite cheap and good.

dats why for your ground when you make chims. you make the doods that can turn into birds. druids of something i forget the name.

i use chims more as siege more then anything. while ground is attacking enemy, chims swoop in from behind and destroy thier town.

Xantar · 07-02-2003, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bobcat

Xantar, Chimeras can't attack air units.

How much does that suck? They can only attack ground units. So you need to make sure your opponent is strictly ground before mass chimeraring.

Yes. Thus air units are good to use against chimeras, and they alse happen to be pretty good against frost wyrms which are very slow.

Of course, none of these are quite as good as sorceresses with Polymorph. Man, that spell is fun when you pull it off.

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I like Gargolyles, and lots of them. They are quite cheap and good.

Gargoyles are ok, but practically any ground unit at all that can attack air will destroy them. In the original Warcraft III, I often had a dozen each priests and sorceresses fighting massive groups of gargoyles and wiping them all out with maybe one or two casualties. I didn't even polymorph any of them. Heal was good enough.

Of course, the guy I was up against was a fool who couldn't focus fire, but still, gargoyles aren't very useful against ground units. That's what the frost wyrms are for.

Canyarion · 07-03-2003, 04:43 AM

Blast I can't wait! Isn't it out already??

I really hope they paid heed to the problems Xantar described.

bobcat · 07-03-2003, 10:36 AM

I just got it!!!

The ability to make your own shops is a bit confusing, and maybe a bit too much.

I like the additional hero and units idea, even though I don't know what half of them do ..........yet. Those Orc ones are weird (with the linking ability) but could be good to use if you have many taurens on your team (for tauren summoning).

What the hell do those Night elf flying units do??

I'm gonna play campaign, then battlenet all the way.

So far my fave heroes are Human/Undead/Night Elf. Don't like the Orc one, but maybe I haven't used him properly.

Undead one is so sick!

And those night elf rock dudes are good! So much though.

Love the game right now. The intro kicked ass. Love Blizzard!