Universe Creation

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Strangie, even in science - what was isn't always what is.

You can say the universe is infinite, but that too is just a theory. Albeit a widely believed theory, but still just a theory. The fact it's widely accepted doesn't make it 100% true.

The topic at hand isn't whether the unvierse is, was, or always will be. It's how. I never posed "Will it end". I never said the universe never existed.


So you're saying without a doubt there is just the universe, and that is all?
As Earth was the only planet?
As the sun was never a star?
As the galaxy never existed?
As the earth was the rotational point of everything?

My point is (despite the fact it's not the intention of the thread) things change. Especially in science. That's what makes it science. That's what makes it interesting and new. If you aren't able to think there may be something outside of a Universe, fine. In no way is a Superverse comparable to a God.

Typhoid, I have no clue what anything you wrote here has to do with what my response was. Further more, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about in any sentence you wrote. I'm suspicious that when you wrote this you were taking advantage of you country's liberal drug laws, but let me take a stab at it...

You open the thread by asking how the universe was created, eliminate God, then when an answer is given you say that there is no answer because everything changes?

Why did you pose whe question to begin with? And if your going to take such a philisophical route instead of scientific like you said, why eliminate God as a source?

This thread is silly...

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

You open the thread by asking how the universe was created, eliminate God, then when an answer is given you say that there is no answer because everything changes?

Because you were talking as if it was deadset fact.
The thread isn't meant to be "I think this. End conversation." but a discussion. Possiblities, no matter how strange.

Originally Posted by Professor S

Why did you pose whe question to begin with?

Because I wanted to know people's stance.

Originally Posted by Professor S

And if your going to take such a philisophical route instead of scientific like you said, why eliminate God as a source?

Because "The earth is only a few thousand years old, and was made in seven days" wasn't what I was going for.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Because you were talking as if it was deadset fact.
The thread isn't meant to be "I think this. End conversation." but a discussion. Possiblities, no matter how strange.

I was presenting an opinion. You asked for it, I gave it, based on the scientific basis you gave to begin this thread with. Now you counter it is philosophy in following posts. All I ask for is consistency.

Because "The earth is only a few thousand years old, and was made in seven days" wasn't what I was going for.

You seem to know so much about what I believe about religion and how it relates to science. Please enlighten us with what you think my views are, because nothing that you just said reflects anything I've EVER said when it comes to science or religion. Please stop putting words in people's mouths and inventing their opinions based on personal bias and need.

If you want to talk science, talk science. If you want to talk philosophy, talk philosophy, but don't then tell people they can't consider a philisophical argument for creation that BILLIONS believe in.

Thats like trying to have a discussion about math and then saying "but act like numbers don't exist."


Hence, the silliness of this thread.

[Angrist]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Because "The earth is only a few thousand years old, and was made in seven days" wasn't what I was going for.

You are insulting my religion. Not all christians believe that.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Angrist

You are insulting my religion. Not all christians believe that.

I never said they do.
I was trying to avoid that aspect of it altogether.]

You seem to know so much about what I believe about religion and how it relates to science. Please enlighten us with what you think my views are, because nothing that you just said reflects anything I've EVER said when it comes to science or religion. Please stop putting words in people's mouths and inventing their opinions based on personal bias and need.

I never once directed what I said about religion at you.
Nor did I say I know what you think, or how you think it.
Stop looking for a fight, it's childish.

Also:

Thats like trying to have a discussion about math and then saying "but act like numbers don't exist."

It's nothing like that, actually.


PS: Thank you, Neo. Finally.