BaB Presents: Where'd Wii go Wrong

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by Bond

I'd argue that Nintendo, with the release of the Wii, has moved the industry horizontally as opposed to its previous vertical climb. And I think because now Nintendo is moving on this horizontal path it has the potential to begin climbing up once again or to climb down. Climbing down, of course, being very dangerous in my view.

I'd argue that the Wiimote by itself was a bigger step for gaming than an evolution of graphical prowess ever will be. How you play a game is equally important to what you're playing. The issue is how they're marketing what to do with that technology. Most of the time it's used as more of a gimmick instead of using it intelligently like Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and The Godfather. Even Zelda could have used it better in a few instances.

In the end, current developers (and many consumers such as yourself) view them as separate issues. I think that the bottom line should be how to make games more immersive and entertaining. I think the payoff is just more obvious with glitzy graphics.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

I'd argue that the Wiimote by itself was a bigger step for gaming than an evolution of graphical prowess ever will be. How you play a game is equally important to what you're playing. The issue is how they're marketing what to do with that technology. Most of the time it's used as more of a gimmick instead of using it intelligently like Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and The Godfather. Even Zelda could have used it better in a few instances.

In the end, current developers (and many consumers such as yourself) view them as separate issues. I think that the bottom line should be how to make games more immersive and entertaining. I think the payoff is just more obvious with glitzy graphics.

It was a big step for gaming...because it introduced a bunch of new gamers to adopt a different way to play. I dont think motion controllers should nor will become the standard in gaming...but the demand was obviously there and Nintendo was able to find a way to meet it. And for that, they're seeing the rewards ($$$).

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

It was a big step for gaming...because it introduced a bunch of new gamers to adopt a different way to play. I dont think motion controllers should nor will become the standard in gaming...but the demand was obviously there and Nintendo was able to find a way to meet it. And for that, they're seeing the rewards ($$$).

If that is the case. Why did Sony release the Sixaxis? And rumors of Microsoft coming out with their own motion controller for the 360?

I'm just curious, I know Strangler owns one.

And Bond has played one like once or twice.

But do you own or played the Wii?

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

If that is the case. Why did Sony release the Sixaxis? And rumors of Microsoft coming out with their own motion controller for the 360?

I'm just curious, I know Strangler owns one.

And Bond has played one like once or twice.

But do you own or played the Wii?

Don't own one. I've played it about a half dozen times.

[BreakABone]

Since this thread seems to be dying down

I am curious to see what those who think the Wii was a bad move, think about Sony and Microsoft (rumored) move to motion controllers as well.

Is it just a ploy to take away marketshare/mindshare from Nintendo or do these companies see motions as a legit future?

[Aladuf]

Ugh, Sony and Microsoft don't need to touch motion controllers. Sony implemented it alright I guess but it's only good on a smaller scale like in games like Army of Two where you flick the controller to reload, or in Ratchet where you guide yourself in the air. But they have proven that it doesn't work in a larger role, like in Lair.

Microsoft just needs to not worry about it period. They are too late to the Motion sensor party IMO. They're coming into year 3 of the 360's life and they just need to stick with what they started with.

Edit: I totally read what you said wrong BaB... oops!

[Perfect Stu]

There's definitely a place for motion controls in gaming, I just don't think it will ever be the only option. I would never want to have to play a game like Madden with motion controls...if I want to move my arm in a throwing motion, I would much prefer to be throwing an actual football.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

I'd argue that the Wiimote by itself was a bigger step for gaming than an evolution of graphical prowess ever will be. How you play a game is equally important to what you're playing. The issue is how they're marketing what to do with that technology. Most of the time it's used as more of a gimmick instead of using it intelligently like Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and The Godfather. Even Zelda could have used it better in a few instances.

I see your point, but I have to agree with Stu here, in that I don't see videogames going the way of motion control. Which is why I believe Nintendo's move to motion control with the Wii is a horizontal move for the videogame industry. Now, maybe if Nintendo continues to evolve motion control with its next console (which I don't see happening), then perhaps we could start talking about vertical movement again for Nintendo. But what I think is more likely is for Nintendo to come out with a new "gimmick" for its next console.