Xbox Banning and Piracy

BreakABone · 12-07-2009, 03:58 AM

Well I think this is an interesting twist,

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Microsoft has begun issuing temporary bans to players taking advantage of an exploit in Modern Warfare 2, while Infinity Ward works on a patch to fix the issue. While the servers may be kept slightly cleaner for the efforts, the amount of control Microsoft holds over owners of their consoles, and the arbitrary way they are able to wield it, is troubling.

Sony stated that it won't be banning anyone over cheating in Modern Warfare 2, but with Infinity Ward controlling all the servers for the game on the PC side of things, bans have been handed down for cheating there, as well. With dedicated servers there was no way for a company to stop you from playing the game, but the closed nature of IWNet means the developer and publisher control your ability to play the game online.

No one is going to defend cheating, but glitches, exploits, and bugs have long found their way into strategy and helped to move gaming forward. Would rocket jumpers have been banned from Xbox Live? If Valve shut down dedicated servers and sought to control every aspect of their games, would there have been Counter Strike? The control Microsoft exerts over Xbox Live, and its ability to block your access to online play remotely, and without appeal, means that you'll be playing the games how they want.

So the gist of it, should MS or anyone be allowed to ban players who exploit a glitch that is in the game?

As much as it sucks, and it does ruin the experience at times, if the developer couldn't be bothered to take it out, I don't see why the player should be punished for it.

I'm sure they will be unbanned once IW patches the game, but its still messed up.

http://www.examiner.com/x-30793-Chic...xploit-Abusers

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-3...sers-in-CODMW2

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...one-banned.ars

Vampyr · 12-07-2009, 09:02 AM

Yeah, I also think that is wrong.

I've always subscribed to the philosophy that a player in a competitive game should play to win, using whatever the game gives them, including bugs/glitches.

TheSlyMoogle · 12-07-2009, 10:54 AM

Dude Halo 2 would have blown ass without the 3 glitches that everyone played with. Made it much more fun.

Combine 017 · 12-07-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

Well I think this is an interesting twist,

So the gist of it, should MS or anyone be allowed to ban players who exploit a glitch that is in the game?

As much as it sucks, and it does ruin the experience at times, if the developer couldn't be bothered to take it out, I don't see why the player should be punished for it.

I'm sure they will be unbanned once IW patches the game, but its still messed up.

Its a really annoying glitch and doesnt really help anyone.
In fact, most times it kills team mates instead of enemies.
And the bans are only 24 hours long, unless you keep doing it, then they add more time.

TheSlyMoogle · 12-07-2009, 11:48 AM

I propose everyone just plays Dual shotgunner in MW2 anyway. It's almost as good as using the rocket glitch.

Fox 6 · 12-07-2009, 12:22 PM

The MW 2 glitch really breaks the game.

BreakABone · 12-07-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

Yeah, I also think that is wrong.

I've always subscribed to the philosophy that a player in a competitive game should play to win, using whatever the game gives them, including bugs/glitches.

I actually don't subscribe to that nature.

There are glitches that just ruin the balance of the game, and its no longer fun.

I have no idea what the MW 2 glitch is per say so can the players actually explain it.

Fox 6 · 12-07-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

I actually don't subscribe to that nature.

There are glitches that just ruin the balance of the game, and its no longer fun.

I have no idea what the MW 2 glitch is per say so can the players actually explain it.

Basically you turn yourself into a walking bomb that has a really big explosion as soon as you die. So you run into a group of enemies and let them shoot you and you kill them. If they dont shoot you, you can just knife them or something. Pretty much a lose lose situation for anyone whos is not doing it.

TheSlyMoogle · 12-08-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fox 6

Basically you turn yourself into a walking bomb that has a really big explosion as soon as you die. So you run into a group of enemies and let them shoot you and you kill them. If they dont shoot you, you can just knife them or something. Pretty much a lose lose situation for anyone whos is not doing it.

Not entirely true about the free knife kills. You have to recook the nade and switch back to javelin in order to reset the glitch. It actually seems to take a fair amount of skill to do it well.

Plus how is that anymore broken than the knife elite who can ran forever, faster, and basically teleport behind an enemy from like 30 feet away and kill them? Also double shotgunner class is fucking disgusting too. That shit is free.

All around a really unbalanced game, and someone discovered this glitch and was like "Oh hey" I approve of the "Suicide Bomber" class.