Sony Motion Controller

[TheGame]

BaBs... Here's where I think you have things confused:

Me and Typhoid do not think that the content offered FOR the new motion controls will slow down Wii sales, we think that the whole package will.

"if someone wants both the full Ps360 experience, and the full Wii one, but can only afford to buy one or the other (or doesn't want to buy both).. This controller increases the odds that they'd go for the Ps360."-TheGame

Ask youself, what is the full Ps360 experience. What are the first things that pop out to you about those systems over Wii. And ask yourself what is the full Wii experience.. what pops out to you about Wii first that the Ps360 can't even try to emulate?

And I know you don't want to be objective about it, and discuss Wii's low scoring simpleton games.. But that is the proof that Wii's controls plays a bigger role then it's game quality.. So if you're not going to discuss that, then we're not going to have an honest debate about it. And yes Wii has Nintendo, and I've grown to respect Nintendo's ability to create good games.. but Gamecube also had Nintendo, so having Nintendo wasn't and isn't enough alone.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by TheGame

BaBs... Here's where I think you have things confused:

Me and Typhoid do not think that the content offered FOR the new motion controls will slow down Wii sales, we think that the whole package will.

"if someone wants both the full Ps360 experience, and the full Wii one, but can only afford to buy one or the other (or doesn't want to buy both).. This controller increases the odds that they'd go for the Ps360."-TheGame

Ask youself, what is the full Ps360 experience. What are the first things that pop out to you about those systems over Wii. And ask yourself what is the full Wii experience.. what pops out to you about Wii first that the Ps360 can't even try to emulate?

And I know you don't want to be objective about it, and discuss Wii's low scoring simpleton games.. But that is the proof that Wii's controls plays a bigger role then it's game quality.. So if you're not going to discuss that, then we're not going to have an honest debate about it. And yes Wii has Nintendo, and I've grown to respect Nintendo's ability to create good games.. but Gamecube also had Nintendo, so having Nintendo wasn't and isn't enough alone.

And I'll ask you time and time and time and time again, why hasn't the Ps360 experience taken off this generation?

Has it ever dawned on people, that people don't care about all the flash? I think people hold out graphical abilities as this gaming crux, but it has done very little.

If nothing else, its word of mouth and hype, that has helped move games. Why MW 2 has been able to achieve over sales of over 10 million, why Halo and GTA have achieved great success.

And you can discuss the Wii's low scoring simpleton games, and I guarantee you like 90% of them are 3rd party games, who do you think are going to make games for the Natal and the Move?

Hell, the Ps3 is already lining up ports of Wii games!

Motion controls have worn off a long time ago, if there were not compelling experiences, people wouldn't continue to invest money into it. Do you not think there are dozens of Wii sports knock-off on the Wii? Deca Sports, Summer Sports, Beach Party, etc, etc

And they hardly make a dent, you think Sports Champion will make a difference? As it stands right now, it doesn't come with the system nor does it come with the controller. So on top of having to buy all the crap necessary you also need to buy a game for proof of concept!

I dont want this thing to be a horrible failure, but it will be.
The folks holding out hope that perhaps Nintendo got lucky with the Wii, that the only thing it has going for it in the past 3 years is motion controls is... I'm just gonna be nice here and say is friggin retard and haven't paid attention to anything that has happened in the last 3 years.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

And I'll ask you time and time and time and time again, why hasn't the Ps360 experience taken off this generation?

They haven't taken off? Last I checked Ps3 has sold around 35 million units, and 360 has sold around 40 million... compared to Wii's 67 million. To put this in perspective... Gamecube Sold 21 million and Xbox sold 24 million... compared to Ps2's 142 million.

Ps3.. the worst selling home console of this Gen, has outsold N64 already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._game_consoles

Ps3 and X360 are FAR from failures. This is something I see Bond trying to tell you over and over.

And I don't get why you refuse to answer why you think Wii won. You keep going on the offensive and pointing out that the other two consoles are failures (which is factually incorrect). I mean seriously, what does Wii have that Gamecube, Xbox, Ps3, and 360 doesn't have?? Or what Ps2/Ps1 did have??

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by TheGame

They haven't taken off? Last I checked Ps3 has sold around 35 million units, and 360 has sold around 40 million... compared to Wii's 67 million. To put this in perspective... Gamecube Sold 21 million and Xbox sold 24 million... compared to Ps2's 142 million.

Ps3.. the worst selling home console of this Gen, has outsold N64 already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._game_consoles

Ps3 and X360 are FAR from failures. This is something I see Bond trying to tell you over and over.

And I don't get why you refuse to answer why you think Wii won. You keep going on the offensive and pointing out that the other two consoles are failures (which is factually incorrect). I mean seriously, what does Wii have that Gamecube, Xbox, Ps3, and 360 doesn't have?? Or what Ps2/Ps1 did have??

I'll answer your question if you do me one favor.

In this thread, in any thread, find where I said that the 360/PS3 are failures, please for all that is holy, find me a quote where I state that they are failures.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

I'll answer your question if you do me one favor.

In this thread, in any thread, find where I said that the 360/PS3 are failures, please for all that is holy, find me a quote where I state that they are failures.

What did I just quote in my last post? You don't directly say it.. but you always want the discussion to be about what Sony and Microsoft did wrong opposed to what Nintendo did right.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by TheGame

What did I just quote in my last post? You don't directly say it.. but you always want the discussion to be about what Sony and Microsoft did wrong opposed to what Nintendo did right.

YOu are the most bone-headed, and retarded person I've had the honor to discuss anything with.

You and Typhoid are the ones who keep bringing up this PS360 experience, and how everyone will hop onto this PS360 experience.

And its been going on for 3-4 years, yes it sold better than most othr consoles, but it isn't lighting the world on fire. Especially being that one is the sequel to the best selling console of all time.

You folks act like this motion controller will finally change the world. That every single person who bought a Wii will find out that they have been ripped off, that they are playing subpar games with terrible graphics and not true HD/surround sound.

And its bullshit, plain and simple. People are so hung up with graphics here, that it hurts them to think that not everyone cares about it. How many hD games have come and gone and been the next best thing? How many do you think people will care about in a year? Two years? Next generation?

And let's say people do discover this, what makes you think, since you and Typhoid are so HUGE on the price difference, that buying a more expensive console on top of being add-ons, will make it a more appealing product?

Really... any type of numbers that show...

Hell if you want an example, blu-rays have been on the market for half a decade, HDTV peneration is at about 50% in the country, and let they are still outsold by DVDs like 3:1.

And as I tried and tried before, when I make this about the history of peripherals on its own, you go back to comparing it to the Wii.

So I'll pose this question, without some hypothetical bullshit you pull out of your ass, what makes you think that the PlayStation Move has a chance to succeed? And don't go on about the Dualshock becoming a standard because as I pointed out, that didn't happen until the PS2, hell even the Dreamcast released with a single analog stick.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

YOu are the most bone-headed, and retarded person I've had the honor to discuss anything with.

Thanks.

-EDIT-

As for the rest of your post.. I answered every question here: http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...6&postcount=19

And as typhoid is about to point out, nobody says everyone will up and abandon Wii for the Ps360. It's just that it will swing sales for people who want both.