Nintendo: Arrogance or something else?

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by Xantar

What's that? Oh, a rehash of the same conversation we've been having for the past four years? Wake me up if somebody says anything new.

Maybe we've been having two different conversations, then.

The base arguements might remain the same but there are important differences. Specifically I'm taking quotes from this past generation to drive the point home. I'm also on the other side of the debate this time (though I've been on the fence for a while). I posed it as a question, and then presented my own answer. Feel free to do the same.

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Maybe we've been having two different conversations, then.

The base arguements might remain the same but there are important differences. Specifically I'm taking quotes from this past generation to drive the point home. I'm also on the other side of the debate this time (though I've been on the fence for a while). I posed it as a question, and then presented my own answer. Feel free to do the same.

Maybe this thread is different in some hair splittingly minor way from all the other kvetching about Nintendo, but I don't really see it. And I don't care if you're on the "other" side. I've never assumed you're on any "side" at all. Nor should you assume I'm on any particular "side" either.

Look, you know I like and respect you. But I'm telling you honestly that I don't see any difference between this thread and about a dozen other threads all over GT and the Internet. And it's not that I agree or disagree with anything you're saying. It's just that I don't see anything new here. Nor do I see any potential for anybody here to say anything I couldn't have predicted them saying. I've read everything so far and see no reason to continue.

So this time you have quotes? So what? Corporate PR often sounds like jackassery. Not to mention it's often outright lies. Remember that time Nintendo claimed they weren't lowering thr price of the GameCube about three days before they lowered the price of the GameCube? As Moogle pointed out, public statements are worthless.

So once I cut out all the PR lying, I'm left with the same old complaints about Nintendo not having an online system, not using HD, being unnecessarily restrictive and so on. And it's not that they're wrong. They're just the exact same thing we've been talking about for four years. Explain to me why I should bother continuing.

[Typhoid]

Xantar, nobody's asking you to participate in this thread if you see no point in the conversation at hand.
If you're not interested in the topic, then stop posting about it.
Simple problem, simple solution.

Regardless, that picture is enormously satisfying all by itself.

So very, very much agreed.

[KillerGremlin]

Despite my poking fun I kind of see where Xantar is coming from.

I think the real question is why is the Wii doing so good and is the future of gaming the "serious person's" console or more Wii-oriented gaming and is gaming's future even on the console or on gadgets that appeal to morons like the iTampon.

That's my question.

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

Despite my poking fun I kind of see where Xantar is coming from.

I think the real question is why is the Wii doing so good and is the future of gaming the "serious person's" console or more Wii-oriented gaming and is gaming's future even on the console or on gadgets that appeal to morons like the iTampon.

That's my question.

Your question poses another problem I have. Nintendo definitely underestimates the Android/App Store and the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad and any other multifunction device where gaming is starting to grow. Then again, I think you do too.

The iPad may have a terrible name and a few definite shortcomings, but it also fills a gap that encroaches on the handheld market to a degree (and the iPod Touch even more so). Why would I buy a $200 DSi XL when I can spend $300 and get an iPod Touch? It does a lot more, and if I jailbreak it (no reason not to without a phone contract) I can even emulate Nintendo's back library on the go.

60% of the apps on the iPad are games. Some of them serious. And as the iPad is charging more of a premium on apps, big name developers will be less shy about bringing their games to it.

Regardless of how much you like the iPad, it sold 300,000+ units on the first day. It (and other tablets like it) is going to be around for a while.