Nintendo: Arrogance or something else?

[manasecret]

Despite their public blustering, I believe Nintendo will slowly incorporate more and more of what the competition has made popular. But I do mean slowly.

Just remember how they felt about CDs back with the N64. Then they decided to go DVD with GCN, but oh wait! It's a GD-ROM bitches! Don't even bother asking what the G stands for, it stands for GREAT. As in GREAT DICK-ROM YOUR MOM.

Then remember how they would never ever incorporate online gaming. Well, along comes the Wii and there they have it. But oh wait, you want it to be a simple and pleasurable experience?? Sorry, pedos are everywhere. You've heard about the pope right?

Then comes HD gaming. Wii does HD, but it doesn't do super HD like all the others. What, you want super HD? May I refer you to our GD-ROM?

So, yeah, they're arrogant. Sometimes it works for them (NES, SNES, Wii, GameBoys, DS), sometimes it doesn't (all the others). I think overall, though, they win big-time.

And TML, going back to your old DS topic competing with Apple products, I think you and many others I've read are way over-estimating how much of the market the i devices will snag. Without dedicated game controls, the iPods will never make much of a dent on the handheld market. Also, may I refer you to the Sega Game Gear, Sony PSP, and that always-popular N-Gage?

[uber_paddler]

Hate to break it to you, but I'm pretty sure the "G" stands for Gamecube.

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by manasecret

And TML, going back to your old DS topic competing with Apple products, I think you and many others I've read are way over-estimating how much of the market the i devices will snag. Without dedicated game controls, the iPods will never make much of a dent on the handheld market. Also, may I refer you to the Sega Game Gear, Sony PSP, and that always-popular N-Gage?

These devices are getting cheaper and cheaper and more and more capable. They're also generally priced more reasonably than Nintendo's handhelds (relative to the hardware costs). And as locked as they can be, they're far more open than any product Nintendo releases in terms of features.

During Apple's press conference today they presented their new online gaming network that will power the iPhone. You'll be able to invite contacts or use the matchmaking service. They'll have achievements and leaderboards as well. Plus with network connectivity out of the way (Wifi or 3G) they have a partial advantage of where the device can be used over Nintendo.

No it is not a 1:1 overlap but it's moving quickly in that direction.

http://gizmodo.com/5512637/iphone-40...d-achievements

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

These devices are getting cheaper and cheaper and more and more capable. They're also generally priced more reasonably than Nintendo's handhelds. And as locked as they can be, they're far more open than any product Nintendo releases in terms of features.

During Apple's press conference today they presented their new online gaming network that will power the iPhone. You'll be able to invite contacts or use the matchmaking service. They'll have achievements and leaderboards as well. Plus with network connectivity out of the way (Wifi or 3G) they have a partial advantage of where the device can be used over Nintendo.

No it is not a 1:1 overlap but it's moving quickly in that direction.

http://gizmodo.com/5512637/iphone-40...d-achievements

Again, way overestimating. I repeat, until the iPods of the world have dedicated gaming controls, they will not make a serious dent in Nintendo's market share.

I'll break my opinion down a little more.

Cheapness doesn't matter, since the DS is priced at a cheap enough point where it doesn't matter.

Power doesn't matter. It has never mattered in the handheld world. This is nothing new.

Open nature doesn't matter. Look at the PC. It doesn't beat all other consoles, despite being quite open.

Gaming network doesn't matter. PSP I'm pretty sure has one. The X360 and PS3 have great ones. The PC has the ultimate open gaming network. The Wii and DS still win.

All that shit doesn't matter. They're nice, but they're not deal breakers. The games in the end, are the only thing that matter. Nintendo has them, and in my opinion, in large part it's because the DS has dedicated gaming controls and that they don't bother doing much of the other crap (albeit nice crap), and instead focus on the games. It's a handheld gaming device, and that's about it. Simple and does what you want it to.

Again, reiterating from that last topic about this, I'm not saying the DS and iPods can't coexist happily. I'm just saying that Nintendo has little to worry about when it comes to Apple, and for good reason.

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by manasecret

Again, way overestimating. I repeat, until the iPods of the world have dedicated gaming controls, they will not make a serious dent in Nintendo's market share.

Apple just scored patents for gaming controller peripherals that just plug onto the dongle on iPhones and iPods.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...the-works.html

Edit: Better link

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Apple just scored patents for gaming controller peripherals that just plug onto the dongle on iPhones and iPods.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...the-works.html

Edit: Better link

That's a good start. Let's see if anything comes of it.